"One of the biggest questions for our entrepreneurs is do we take enough risk and treat failure as a key stepping stone to success"

"We need a discussion as a community around what are objectively good social outcomes"

"We have incredibly well qualified women who should be sitting around board tables, and we are poorer for not having their contribution"



Mike and Carol have a wide-ranging conversation that touches on entrepreneurship, social enterprise and the role of not-for-profit boards in Australia. They also look at Carol’s professional journey.

Mike and Carol speak about the persistent challenges facing local female representation on not-for-profit and company boards, executive leadership positions and political posts.

Carol also gives very valuable insights on shaping a career in business and entrepreneurship and discusses Trawalla Group's plans to fund relevant not-for-profits and social enterprises.


Carol Schwartz AM is recognised as a highly esteemed business leader and entrepreneur, focusing on the property and finance industries. She has had a dynamic career spanning across the property, arts, finance, government and health sectors.

She is Non-Executive Director at Trawalla Group and Co-Founder of the Trawalla Foundation, which supports the growth of innovative not-for-profit and social enterprises that exhibit leadership in social impact.

Carol is also regarded as one of Australia’s leading spokespeople on the issues of governance, social enterprise and women’s leadership.

Carol was awarded a Member of the Order of Australia in 2006 for her achievements in business and commerce and her contribution to the community and the arts. Carol also received the Centenary Medal in 2001 in recognition of her outstanding service as a leading business executive and board participant.

In 2016 Carol became the first woman to be inducted into the Australian Property Hall of Fame. She is also an honorary life member of the Property Council of Australia.


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